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24 Responses

  1. Joe
    Joe June 5, 2012 at 4:53 am | | Reply

    I believe he should be able to post what he wants.
    However, I do get a little tired of sanctimonious type 2 diabetics who claim by following “their” diet, they can get off meds. Look even type 2 diabetics who have gastric bypass generally don’t get off all their meds, despite the media hype.

    1. Kate McCue
      Kate McCue June 6, 2012 at 10:07 am | | Reply

      Good for Steve for being an advocate to diabetics everywhere. I speak with diabetics who claim constantly that they are eating all the right food but their A1c is 12!! I know then they are in denial. Lowering your A1c just doesn’t happen overnight. Try following the diet you are supposed to be eating, comrades and you will have better results. My A1c varies between 5.8-6.1 and I am ptoud of it!

      1. Jan74
        Jan74 June 27, 2012 at 8:33 am | | Reply

        And my A1c is 6.5 after only three months after diagnosis (with an A1c of 11.3), and guess what? I eat carbs. Everyday.

        That is why the post says, YDMV.

    2. Keith Ram Prakash
      Keith Ram Prakash August 2, 2013 at 7:39 am | | Reply

      I have been blogging as well about similar things with my type 1 diabetes. I’ve wondered if I could be at risk for a similar situation. Any thoughts?

      Here is my most recent post that hits on exactly the kind of things highlighted here:

      http://type1nomore.blogspot.com/2013/08/polarities-in-reception.html

  2. Tim
    Tim June 5, 2012 at 6:06 am | | Reply

    I’ve had many well-meaning people on the internet tell me that I could cure my Type 1 diabetes with diet. The one thing that gets them every time is “where’s the study proving it works for everyone?” They get sheepish and have to admit it doesn’t work for everyone (i.e.: Type 1s. They really don’t understand the difference). My worry is that someone will totally believe it without doing the critical thinking and research to find out what the dangers are to their health. As of yet, there is no miracle cure. Eating well and exercising are still ANY diabetic’s best plan…but some people think there’s a shortcut that only works for people who believe that it will.

  3. Sarah
    Sarah June 5, 2012 at 6:18 am | | Reply

    I think he should be able to blog about what he has done to help his T2, but I think he crossed the line when he started charging for his services. If you’re blogging to help others, great. If you’re in it to make money off of your readers, then I would expect you to have a degree of some sort. It’s one thing to blog because you want to say “hey, people, this worked for me, and while it may help you if you decide to go the same route, just wanna let you know up-front I’m not a doctor and I don’t know the ins-and-outs everything, so you follow it at your own risk, k?”, but to blatantly give lifestyle prescriptions (may as well call it that) to others or their family members is a bit too far, I think.

    1. Jan74
      Jan74 June 27, 2012 at 8:32 am | | Reply

      This, exactly.

      He lost all reason cause he was in fact charging for dietitian work, without being a dietitian. It is not about free speech, it is about an unlicensed professional.

  4. Allison
    Allison June 5, 2012 at 6:38 am | | Reply

    I actually have spent a lot of time reading his site (as a type 1 diabetic) and I know he is on to something with the paleo lifestyle – it definitely helps me and I think he is right about the conspiracy behind the ADA, etc. – pushing high-carb, low-fat, unhealthy diets (unhealthy for EVERYONE – just read Michael Pollan’s “In Defense of Food”).

    However, you’re right – there are people who have other underlying causes of their diabetes that may or may not be helped by improving their diet, and while it wouldn’t hurt for them to try it, it does seem to give off a “sanctimonious” attitude. And whichever way you look at it, Mr. Cooksey really does want to help people.

  5. Richard
    Richard June 5, 2012 at 7:19 am | | Reply

    I don’t think you should use a dietplan and take corrections to your diet through the internet alone. Similarly I don’t think it is advisable to offer a complete diet plan and suggest changes to people their diet when you only know them through the internet.
    Theres just not enough information going both ways and the information has a higher degree of unreliability.

    You should always discuss ideas you learned on the internet with a trained professional, who face-to-face can get a better idea of how things are affecting you.
    They also might ask or check for information that can complicate things for you, that you yourself or another untrained person might not have considered of being of importance.

    And the one rule of Diabetes: it is different for everyone. I think websites on diabetes are immensly helpful in spreading information, ideas, inspiration and encouragement.
    But they should not prescribe things based on personal experience, cause while we’re all on the same journey, we all have different bagage, methods of travel and startingpoints. (look it’s a travel metaphor! +1)

  6. Johanna B
    Johanna B June 5, 2012 at 9:41 am | | Reply

    Good post. Will be following the developments of this case closely. I don’t believe in censorship either but I do think this guy crossed a line by charging for his services.

  7. Terry
    Terry June 5, 2012 at 9:45 am | | Reply

    The elephant in the room of this argument is the professional advice long held by the Dietitian and medical estsblishment. The routine recommendation for diabetics and others is to consume about 55% of calories as carbohydrates. That level of carb consumption has created poor blood sugar control for many diabetics. The source of this dietary advice ultimately lies with corporate agribusiness’ undue influence on government (USDA) and even the position held by professional dietetic associations.

    The established bias towards low fat high carb diets do at least some of us a great disservice and ultimately contribute to nasty diabetic complications.

    I support the Diabetes Warrior’s pushback against the dietetic status quo. I do not support, however, his hanging out a shingle and charging others for his diet advice.

  8. Richard Vaughn
    Richard Vaughn June 5, 2012 at 10:10 am | | Reply

    Thanks for this blog, Mike! This has worried me for years. I give advice all over the Net based on my own experiences, but I would not dream of charging people for it. I wrote a book about my 66 year autobiography with type 1, and people do pay for it, but it is not a book about how to have good diabetes management. So, I think I am safe.

    I have two Facebook friends who are charging people for advice on using diets to reverse diabetes. One of them wanted me to join her and be an advisor and consultant in her business. She said I would earn money by working with her. I backed away and refused to cooperate! We are still friends. I recently asked her how her business is doing, she did not reply. I am thinking she may have encountered many problems with her “customers”.

  9. Bob Fenton
    Bob Fenton June 5, 2012 at 12:04 pm | | Reply

    Great blog, Mike. This is a legitimate concern for bloggers, especially in the states of Ohio and North Carolina. I feel the bulk of the concern belongs at the the feet of the
    Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics (AND, formerly ADA). Not being a lawyer and not having access to the papers filed in this lawsuit, I still need to wonder if they are only limiting the lawsuit to NC. If this is the case, then it may be wrongly filed. The suit should be against the AND for attempting to become a monopoly and unfair trade practices. When people with degrees in nutrition and even PhDs are forced out of business, as is the case in Ohio and NC, because they are not licensed by AND, this should be illegal. In their website, the AND clearly states that this is the competition they wish to eliminate or at least chase to other organizations already licensed to dispense nutrition information. The mafia style tactics has driven competing organizations in California to work hard to have the current law there revised to eliminate some language or repeal the current law.

    There are some dietitians doing an excellent job, but we don’t need elitism as we have enough of that in other diabetes supporting organizations. If the pace of diabetes diagnosis increases as expected, there will not be enough certified nutritionists/dietitians to fill the void. What is a person with any type of diabetes to do? I do not want my choice of nutrition advice limited to one group.

    1. Jan74
      Jan74 June 27, 2012 at 1:14 pm | | Reply

      So asking people to be trained for their jobs is “elitism” now? Are you ok if I set up an endocrinology office, then? I mean, I didn’t go to medical school, but it would be elitist to require me to do so. What about if I take a job as a bus driver without having a driver’s license? Or if I design a bridge? Engineering degrees are also elitist.

  10. Rich the Diabetic
    Rich the Diabetic June 5, 2012 at 2:39 pm | | Reply

    The Diabetes Warrior crossed the line LEGALLY, because he was charging for his services. This is NOT A CASE OF CENSORSHIP. He was charging for his services. BTW, everybody keeps saying he’s just offering his “advice” on his website, well, “advice” is suppose to be free. If he was just giving advice, this wouldn’t have happened.

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  12. AmyT
    AmyT June 6, 2012 at 8:39 am | | Reply

    @Rich – I think this IS a censorship issue with implications for the blogosphere, simply because Steve is/was a blogger, sharing lots of information and “advice” online. If he’d simply been some guy trying to open an offline nutrition counseling business without a license, that would be a different case altogether.

    I think the point of our post here is that this case shines a spotlight on online sharing and counseling, and where one should draw the line between the two. And what are the legal implications?

  13. Phyllis`
    Phyllis` June 8, 2012 at 12:52 am | | Reply

    I have lived on this Earth 70 years and have seen, heard, and lived though many medical “truths” over those years that later were found poor if not false information. Amazing!!! My though is simply… who is making the money at the expense of Diabetics? Who came up with the idea of diabetic nutritionists in the first place. Ah, maybe a person like Steve who lobbied for licensing for an occupation which would paid them for their time to tell us what to eat and when.

  14. Kate
    Kate June 8, 2012 at 9:22 am | | Reply

    Great article Mike! Like so many others have already said above, I don’t like censorship but this guy has crossed the line. I love the fact that there are so many dblogs out there for us to read (however we need more T2s!!!). I think it’s important to educate ourselves about all the possibilities out there that may help us to control our diabetes. Then it’s our responsibility to find what works for us! The “just do this and you’ll be fine” attitude gets under my skin. Thanks for a great article that sums things up so well.

  15. Barry Groves
    Barry Groves July 1, 2012 at 11:26 pm | | Reply

    Good for Steve!

    Type 2 diabetes is a disease of carbohydrate metabolism. Cutting carbs WILL help any type 2 diabetic.

    It’s no coincidence that Type 2 has ‘taken off’ since we were introduced to ‘healthy eating’. It’s a classic case of cause and effect.

    But you don’t have to take Steve’s word for it, or mine or your diabetes dietician’s. You can easily test the claim for yourself in just one day – or really one meal. Just do the one-day test as spelled out on Cure Diabetes With Diet.

    Don’t knock it until you have tried it.

  16. Sysy
    Sysy July 12, 2012 at 1:22 pm | | Reply

    For those of you following this story, a really huge update just came about. Read this article to get the latest, it’s pretty shocking and I myself am seething mad:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelellsberg/2012/07/10/american_dietetic_association_2/

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  19. Doug
    Doug November 19, 2012 at 6:06 am | | Reply

    This is a disturbing trend and it seems that many of the replies here support it. There are MANY Dr’s who are trained and have licenses who give out REALLY bad Diabetes advice. I’m sure all Type 1s have been treated by MANY Dr’s as Type 2s and given advice that as either misguided or could be deadly depending. When I was diagnosed the Drs advice was to watch my Diet. My A1c was 19…. Diet ? Really ?

    I see this as similar to the certifications in My Business. I’m an IT analyst and I have 20 years experience but NO degree and no current certifications from the Paper Mills. I’ve worked with MANY people over the years that have all the certifications from MS or cisco or who ever BUT they have NO practical knowledge and therefore advice they give is either just plan bad or can be catastrophic. Many of them have no logical thinking skills either. In my industry we call them “Paper MCSE’s” All school work and no practical knowledge. They often get really good jobs at high pay rates that they cant do and in most cases cant keep. Luckily my industry is tolerant of people with no degeree who want to make a living. As a country we should do what we can to help people to make a living. Let the buyer beware

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