Comments on: DA: Doug Burns Case to be Dismissed!! http://www.diabetesmine.com/2007/05/da_doug_burns_c.html A gold mine of straight talk and encouragement for people living with diabetes Mon, 13 Feb 2012 01:28:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Scott Stockburger http://www.diabetesmine.com/2007/05/da_doug_burns_c.html/comment-page-1#comment-224552 Scott Stockburger Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:20:09 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2007/05/30/da-doug-burns-case-to-be-dismissed/#comment-224552 I have a similar story to Mr. Burns and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. In making a lon story short, On December 15, 2008, I was returning to Dallas from a ski trip to the Salt Lake area. My flight suffered several delays and I did not pick up something to eat on the return trip. Between Albuquerquie and Dallas I went to sleep and went into insulin shock. When the plane landed everyone exited but me as I was slumped over in my seat. The Flight Attendants tried to wake me but said I became beligerant and was generally un responsive. The Dallas Police came and carted me away to an area and arrested me for disorderly conduct. 2 hours later in the police processing area of the airport I finally became cognizant of what was going on and explained to the officer what the problem was. He stated that now I was being nice and responsive only after seeing the result of my actions. I continued to explain the condition and they asked the ems to check my blood sugar. When checked it was at 100. That's after a 2 hour second flight leg and sitting in the detention area for 2.5 hours. He said that I should be thankful I was only charged with disorderly conduct and that I would be in jail overnight. He also asked what the device was on my belt and said that I had screamed when they trie to remove it (My Insulin Pump). He said they thought it was an mp3 player/ipod. In short, no one ever suspected that there was a medical issue. Not the flight attendants who assumed I was being beligerant, even though I was never served any food or beverage on either leg of the flight, because I was sleeping/slipping into shock from the onset. It was a pretty awful experience. One I would hope that no Diabetic would have to suffer. There is far more detai as the police roughed me up fairly well, including torn rotator cuff on both shoulders, cuts and bruises on the wrists from being cuffed not to mention the constant numbness in left index finger and thumb since due to the cuffs being on too tight for 2.5 hours and me not being coherent to complain. Any thoughts or advice on pursuing this is appreciated. Unlike Mr. Burns, my goal is to at least stick it to every cop that was involed in the event and make them think twice in the future about cause and effects. Thanks, My email is d.stockburger@sbcglobal.net I have a similar story to Mr. Burns and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. In making a lon story short, On December 15, 2008, I was returning to Dallas from a ski trip to the Salt Lake area. My flight suffered several delays and I did not pick up something to eat on the return trip. Between Albuquerquie and Dallas I went to sleep and went into insulin shock. When the plane landed everyone exited but me as I was slumped over in my seat. The Flight Attendants tried to wake me but said I became beligerant and was generally un responsive. The Dallas Police came and carted me away to an area and arrested me for disorderly conduct. 2 hours later in the police processing area of the airport I finally became cognizant of what was going on and explained to the officer what the problem was. He stated that now I was being nice and responsive only after seeing the result of my actions. I continued to explain the condition and they asked the ems to check my blood sugar. When checked it was at 100. That’s after a 2 hour second flight leg and sitting in the detention area for 2.5 hours. He said that I should be thankful I was only charged with disorderly conduct and that I would be in jail overnight. He also asked what the device was on my belt and said that I had screamed when they trie to remove it (My Insulin Pump). He said they thought it was an mp3 player/ipod. In short, no one ever suspected that there was a medical issue. Not the flight attendants who assumed I was being beligerant, even though I was never served any food or beverage on either leg of the flight, because I was sleeping/slipping into shock from the onset. It was a pretty awful experience. One I would hope that no Diabetic would have to suffer. There is far more detai as the police roughed me up fairly well, including torn rotator cuff on both shoulders, cuts and bruises on the wrists from being cuffed not to mention the constant numbness in left index finger and thumb since due to the cuffs being on too tight for 2.5 hours and me not being coherent to complain. Any thoughts or advice on pursuing this is appreciated. Unlike Mr. Burns, my goal is to at least stick it to every cop that was involed in the event and make them think twice in the future about cause and effects. Thanks, My email is d.stockburger@sbcglobal.net

]]> By: Richard http://www.diabetesmine.com/2007/05/da_doug_burns_c.html/comment-page-1#comment-37863 Richard Sat, 01 Mar 2008 07:09:33 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2007/05/30/da-doug-burns-case-to-be-dismissed/#comment-37863 Type 1 vs Type 2 - just a note for those type 1's who think type 2's don't also sometimes suffer from hypoglycemia - depending on the medication, us type 2's can also go hypo - and yes, it does the same thing to us. And quite a few type 2's do eventually end up on glucose, so it's not really an exclusive club. Granted, there are newer medications for type 2's that lessen or eliminate the frequency/likelihood of going hypo, but when it happens, we get the same sweats, rapid breathing, disorientation, etc. that type 1's get. Getting the public educated about diabetes is the real issue here! Doug, congratulations! Maybe the momentum gained here can become something even greater and help people to recognize diabetes for what it is - a malfunction of the body that manifests itself in the way we metabolize glucose and that can can cause life threatening conditions, no matter what your type. Type 1 vs Type 2 – just a note for those type 1′s who think type 2′s don’t also sometimes suffer from hypoglycemia – depending on the medication, us type 2′s can also go hypo – and yes, it does the same thing to us. And quite a few type 2′s do eventually end up on glucose, so it’s not really an exclusive club. Granted, there are newer medications for type 2′s that lessen or eliminate the frequency/likelihood of going hypo, but when it happens, we get the same sweats, rapid breathing, disorientation, etc. that type 1′s get. Getting the public educated about diabetes is the real issue here! Doug, congratulations! Maybe the momentum gained here can become something even greater and help people to recognize diabetes for what it is – a malfunction of the body that manifests itself in the way we metabolize glucose and that can can cause life threatening conditions, no matter what your type.

]]> By: Doug Burns http://www.diabetesmine.com/2007/05/da_doug_burns_c.html/comment-page-1#comment-37862 Doug Burns Mon, 04 Jun 2007 21:03:21 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2007/05/30/da-doug-burns-case-to-be-dismissed/#comment-37862 Thank you very much....Allie, Andy, Amy :) , Anne, Bernard, Carol, Dave, Drea, Khurt, Lauren, Manny, BM- Big Micah, Nicole, Red Spar, Sarah, Simon, and Vivian too! Thank you for the support, the encouragement, the compliments, and the understanding. One of you stated so correctly that this brings light to the low BS issue that we all have to deal with. All of us with T-1 know the hardship it can create but it’s people like you who, instead of complaining, step up and over the hardships that face us. This so strongly encourages other people not just with T-1 but with other adversities as well. Your perseverance shines like a light to people who sometimes can’t express their difficulties. Honestly it was all the support from people like you and the little kids that let Micah and I stand up to the incredible rubbish that was being slung at me and at p/w/T1. It was an honor to do so. Will keep you posted on the details as they come out. Thank you again so very much :) If you're coming to the CWD conference in Orlando or DESA in Colorado, please stop by and say "hi". Doug Thank you very much….Allie, Andy, Amy :) , Anne, Bernard, Carol, Dave, Drea, Khurt, Lauren, Manny, BM- Big Micah, Nicole, Red Spar, Sarah, Simon, and Vivian too! Thank you for the support, the encouragement, the compliments, and the understanding. One of you stated so correctly that this brings light to the low BS issue that we all have to deal with. All of us with T-1 know the hardship it can create but it’s people like you who, instead of complaining, step up and over the hardships that face us. This so strongly encourages other people not just with T-1 but with other adversities as well. Your perseverance shines like a light to people who sometimes can’t express their difficulties. Honestly it was all the support from people like you and the little kids that let Micah and I stand up to the incredible rubbish that was being slung at me and at p/w/T1. It was an honor to do so. Will keep you posted on the details as they come out.
Thank you again so very much :) If you’re coming to the CWD conference in Orlando or DESA in Colorado, please stop by and say “hi”.
Doug

]]> By: Lauren http://www.diabetesmine.com/2007/05/da_doug_burns_c.html/comment-page-1#comment-37860 Lauren Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:27:20 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2007/05/30/da-doug-burns-case-to-be-dismissed/#comment-37860 I am new to the diabetes community and I am impressed by what an informed and active community it is! Thank you, Doug, for bearing this burden with such grace. Micah, I second the notion that you represented all of us. Now, if only the police department would issue a public apology and tell us they learned something from this episode ... I am new to the diabetes community and I am impressed by what an informed and active community it is!

Thank you, Doug, for bearing this burden with such grace. Micah, I second the notion that you represented all of us.

Now, if only the police department would issue a public apology and tell us they learned something from this episode …

]]> By: Anne http://www.diabetesmine.com/2007/05/da_doug_burns_c.html/comment-page-1#comment-37859 Anne Thu, 31 May 2007 04:27:55 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2007/05/30/da-doug-burns-case-to-be-dismissed/#comment-37859 Micah, Thanks for posting your comments, and for doing pro bono work for Doug (and basically the rest of us, indirectly). As you can tell, we were all pretty much furious and dumb-founded by the whole situation. I am glad that Doug can get back to his life now, and that the DA realized his mistake before dragging Doug along any further. Best wishes, Anne Micah,
Thanks for posting your comments, and for doing pro bono work for Doug (and basically the rest of us, indirectly). As you can tell, we were all pretty much furious and dumb-founded by the whole situation. I am glad that Doug can get back to his life now, and that the DA realized his mistake before dragging Doug along any further.

Best wishes,
Anne

]]> By: M http://www.diabetesmine.com/2007/05/da_doug_burns_c.html/comment-page-1#comment-37858 M Thu, 31 May 2007 03:03:09 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2007/05/30/da-doug-burns-case-to-be-dismissed/#comment-37858 YAY!! What great news to wake up to! I love the way this story came out and instantly got Doug such amazing support. I'm fairly new to the blogging community but have loved seeing how people get together for support when someone needs it. You're all so darned wonderful! Doug, as much as this whole thing would've totally sucked for you... I'm kinda glad it helped to bring hypo issues out in the open a little. Sorry you had to go through all that, but again you've been a great example and probably led the way for others who may go through a similar situation. Thank you for dealing with all the fuss in such a great manner! And thank you for all you do daily, you're truly a great example as a fit & able diabetic. Someone to look up to and someone to learn from. Micah - Thanks for your part in this, what a ride it must've been, and a learning curve too by the sounds of it! Once again, YAY!!!!! YAY!! What great news to wake up to!

I love the way this story came out and instantly got Doug such amazing support. I’m fairly new to the blogging community but have loved seeing how people get together for support when someone needs it. You’re all so darned wonderful!

Doug, as much as this whole thing would’ve totally sucked for you… I’m kinda glad it helped to bring hypo issues out in the open a little. Sorry you had to go through all that, but again you’ve been a great example and probably led the way for others who may go through a similar situation. Thank you for dealing with all the fuss in such a great manner! And thank you for all you do daily, you’re truly a great example as a fit & able diabetic. Someone to look up to and someone to learn from.

Micah – Thanks for your part in this, what a ride it must’ve been, and a learning curve too by the sounds of it!

Once again, YAY!!!!!

]]> By: Allie Beatty http://www.diabetesmine.com/2007/05/da_doug_burns_c.html/comment-page-1#comment-37857 Allie Beatty Thu, 31 May 2007 02:04:16 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2007/05/30/da-doug-burns-case-to-be-dismissed/#comment-37857 Yayyyyyy!! No wonder they didn't return my call ;) They probably dismissed the case as soon as Amy put them **ON NOTICE** ;) Way to make it happen, Amy! :) Yayyyyyy!! No wonder they didn’t return my call ;) They probably dismissed the case as soon as Amy put them **ON NOTICE** ;)

Way to make it happen, Amy! :)

]]> By: Simon http://www.diabetesmine.com/2007/05/da_doug_burns_c.html/comment-page-1#comment-37856 Simon Thu, 31 May 2007 01:03:41 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2007/05/30/da-doug-burns-case-to-be-dismissed/#comment-37856 YAY! Insufficient evidence? Should have been "no case to answer" to my mind but at least it's gone now. It must be a great weight off Mr. Burns' mind. YAY!

Insufficient evidence? Should have been “no case to answer” to my mind but at least it’s gone now. It must be a great weight off Mr. Burns’ mind.

]]> By: Micah Jacobs http://www.diabetesmine.com/2007/05/da_doug_burns_c.html/comment-page-1#comment-37855 Micah Jacobs Wed, 30 May 2007 23:01:16 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2007/05/30/da-doug-burns-case-to-be-dismissed/#comment-37855 Hello Everyone, I am the attorney who helped convince the D.A. to dismiss these absurd charges. I must say I am quite impressed with all of you and your community and how much your vocal support helped us. Thank you Amy and everyone else. I learned quite a bit about the important health and safety issues your community lives with every day. We are business lawyers not criminal lawyers, but we were so impressed by Doug, his pro bono work with children with diabetes and your community, and also troubled by the manner in which law enforcement handled this (until today, that is), that we offered to take Doug's case pro bono. And now we're seeing an amazing community in action and it's been a great experience. Thank you for all the support -- it was a tremendous help. Micah Jacobs www.jacobsferraro.com Hello Everyone, I am the attorney who helped convince the D.A. to dismiss these absurd charges. I must say I am quite impressed with all of you and your community and how much your vocal support helped us. Thank you Amy and everyone else. I learned quite a bit about the important health and safety issues your community lives with every day. We are business lawyers not criminal lawyers, but we were so impressed by Doug, his pro bono work with children with diabetes and your community, and also troubled by the manner in which law enforcement handled this (until today, that is), that we offered to take Doug’s case pro bono. And now we’re seeing an amazing community in action and it’s been a great experience.

Thank you for all the support — it was a tremendous help.

Micah Jacobs
http://www.jacobsferraro.com

]]> By: Red Spar http://www.diabetesmine.com/2007/05/da_doug_burns_c.html/comment-page-1#comment-37854 Red Spar Wed, 30 May 2007 19:20:40 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2007/05/30/da-doug-burns-case-to-be-dismissed/#comment-37854 Stick it to the man! ;) Good work everyone! Stick it to the man! ;)

Good work everyone!

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