Comments on: Exit, Stage Left http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/10/exit_stage_left.html A gold mine of straight talk and encouragement for people living with diabetes Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:05:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Jeffery http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/10/exit_stage_left.html/comment-page-1#comment-36183 Jeffery Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:23:51 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/10/08/exit-stage-left/#comment-36183 I (fairly new employee) work in the fulfillment department at AmMed Direct. We are still sending out BD Ultra-Fine 30 and 33 Gauge Lancets and still have BD logic meters. As I stated I have worked for the company for a few months so not sure how much longer we will have the BD Logic products. I (fairly new employee) work in the fulfillment department at AmMed Direct. We are still sending out BD Ultra-Fine 30 and 33 Gauge Lancets and still have BD logic meters. As I stated I have worked for the company for a few months so not sure how much longer we will have the BD Logic products.

]]> By: DensityDuck http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/10/exit_stage_left.html/comment-page-1#comment-36182 DensityDuck Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:10:06 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/10/08/exit-stage-left/#comment-36182 Hm. I tried two different BD meters and the numbers were all over the map; repeated tests at the same time gave results that varied as much as 150 mg/dL (when it gave a result at all instead of failing!) My veteran OneTouch Profile varied by +/- 15 the whole time. Hm. I tried two different BD meters and the numbers were all over the map; repeated tests at the same time gave results that varied as much as 150 mg/dL (when it gave a result at all instead of failing!) My veteran OneTouch Profile varied by +/- 15 the whole time.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/10/exit_stage_left.html/comment-page-1#comment-36181 Kevin Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:32:14 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/10/08/exit-stage-left/#comment-36181 I'm not a user of a BD meter but I have followed this closely since it originally came out a week or so ago. I just wonder who MM will partner. Lifescan is with Animas and Dexcom Abbott has the Navigator and Aviator along with the Cozmo Roche has the Accu-Check Spirit The ONLY options are take Bayer Diabetes (Ascensia) and partner with them or to buy the rights to the BD line of meters and to continue producing it themselves. Or they can try to develop their own, but that takes a lengthy time to do with FDA approval process, nt to mention they'd have to design from scratch, which doesn't happen overnight. Only time will tell what they decide to do. I’m not a user of a BD meter but I have followed this closely since it originally came out a week or so ago. I just wonder who MM will partner.

Lifescan is with Animas and Dexcom
Abbott has the Navigator and Aviator along with the Cozmo
Roche has the Accu-Check Spirit

The ONLY options are take Bayer Diabetes (Ascensia) and partner with them or to buy the rights to the BD line of meters and to continue producing it themselves. Or they can try to develop their own, but that takes a lengthy time to do with FDA approval process, nt to mention they’d have to design from scratch, which doesn’t happen overnight.

Only time will tell what they decide to do.

]]> By: Dennis http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/10/exit_stage_left.html/comment-page-1#comment-36180 Dennis Tue, 10 Oct 2006 03:04:02 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/10/08/exit-stage-left/#comment-36180 Being in the Insurance Business for a period of time and talking to many Diabetics about meters and other supplies... I think the Main reason BD and others can't compete is simply? The Insruance Companies and The Federal Gov't ( ie: VA and Medicare) control this market.. Meaning- For most with health Insurance, the Insurance company usually Dictates which meter you can use per Supplying the Test strips.. And for the Retail average of about $90 per 100 strips ( 90 cents each ) while these Mfg. Co.'s give upto 60% Discounts for the volume, it's no wonder they can dominate...and drive competition out.. No matter if the competitions Meter and strips are superior... I'm just afraid this will lead to All the other Meds and supplies we need as well.. and even limit more than it is now, to get Insulin pumps, etc. Being in the Insurance Business for a period of time and talking to many Diabetics about meters and other supplies… I think the Main reason BD and others can’t compete is simply? The Insruance Companies and The Federal Gov’t ( ie: VA and Medicare) control this market..

Meaning- For most with health Insurance, the Insurance company usually Dictates which meter you can use per Supplying the Test strips..

And for the Retail average of about $90 per 100 strips ( 90 cents each ) while these Mfg. Co.’s give upto 60% Discounts for the volume, it’s no wonder they can dominate…and drive competition out.. No matter if the competitions Meter and strips are superior…

I’m just afraid this will lead to All the other Meds and supplies we need as well.. and even limit more than it is now, to get Insulin pumps, etc.

]]> By: JasonJayhawk http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/10/exit_stage_left.html/comment-page-1#comment-36179 JasonJayhawk Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:58:21 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/10/08/exit-stage-left/#comment-36179 Felix, how much have you used Bayer's meters? The two meters they have out are insults to current technology. One requires 3.0 microliters of blood and 15-20 seconds for a result. The other, which I just saw a television commercial for, claims "Fast results" -- do they mean to say that 15 to 20 seconds is a "fast result"? Waiting 15-20 seconds for a result (compared to 5-7 seconds for other meters) means spending more than twice my time waiting for a result. Let's hope MM partners with someone with a little more speed. Felix, how much have you used Bayer’s meters? The two meters they have out are insults to current technology. One requires 3.0 microliters of blood and 15-20 seconds for a result. The other, which I just saw a television commercial for, claims “Fast results” — do they mean to say that 15 to 20 seconds is a “fast result”?

Waiting 15-20 seconds for a result (compared to 5-7 seconds for other meters) means spending more than twice my time waiting for a result.

Let’s hope MM partners with someone with a little more speed.

]]> By: art-sweet http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/10/exit_stage_left.html/comment-page-1#comment-36178 art-sweet Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:23:10 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/10/08/exit-stage-left/#comment-36178 Thanks Amy! Thanks Amy!

]]> By: AmyT http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/10/exit_stage_left.html/comment-page-1#comment-36177 AmyT Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:28:35 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/10/08/exit-stage-left/#comment-36177 Hey Art-Sweet, Medtronic is "exploring other meter options," per their drawer statement here: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.minimed.com/meter.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.minimed.com/meter.html</a> I'm nosing around to see if I can find out anything more substantial :) Hey Art-Sweet,
Medtronic is “exploring other meter options,” per their drawer statement here: http://www.minimed.com/meter.html

I’m nosing around to see if I can find out anything more substantial :)

]]> By: Felix Kasza http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/10/exit_stage_left.html/comment-page-1#comment-36176 Felix Kasza Mon, 09 Oct 2006 05:12:15 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/10/08/exit-stage-left/#comment-36176 MM has more than a year to find another meter to talk to the pump. Personally, I would love if they chose Bayer's Ascensia; no coding, best accuracy of all the meters I ever tried, no coding, reasonable (but not smallest) sample size, no coding, excellent repeatability of results, no coding, excellent pattern analysis software, no coding, reasonably short test time (but not the shortest), no coding, and did I mention NO CODING? All it needs is that little radio transmitter .... Cheers, Felix. MM has more than a year to find another meter to talk to the pump. Personally, I would love if they chose Bayer’s Ascensia; no coding, best accuracy of all the meters I ever tried, no coding, reasonable (but not smallest) sample size, no coding, excellent repeatability of results, no coding, excellent pattern analysis software, no coding, reasonably short test time (but not the shortest), no coding, and did I mention NO CODING?

All it needs is that little radio transmitter ….

Cheers,
Felix.

]]> By: Megan http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/10/exit_stage_left.html/comment-page-1#comment-36175 Megan Mon, 09 Oct 2006 01:57:11 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/10/08/exit-stage-left/#comment-36175 I ordered meters from Abbott and Lifescan. My Lifescan meter came with no strips. So much for trying it out. I ordered meters from Abbott and Lifescan. My Lifescan meter came with no strips. So much for trying it out.

]]> By: art-sweet http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/10/exit_stage_left.html/comment-page-1#comment-36174 art-sweet Mon, 09 Oct 2006 01:27:59 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/10/08/exit-stage-left/#comment-36174 Crap. I have no great fondness for my bd meter. It works. But it automatically zaps my sugars over to my minimed pump. And that is COOL. What does medtronic have to say about this? Bet they are wishing they picked a different meter to sync with... off to see if I can still order the bd strips through my mail order pharmacy... Crap.

I have no great fondness for my bd meter. It works.

But it automatically zaps my sugars over to my minimed pump. And that is COOL.

What does medtronic have to say about this? Bet they are wishing they picked a different meter to sync with…

off to see if I can still order the bd strips through my mail order pharmacy…

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