Comments on: More Marketing Wars: Lantus vs. Levemir http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/07/more_marketing.html A gold mine of straight talk and encouragement for people living with diabetes Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:05:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Bill Karro http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/07/more_marketing.html/comment-page-1#comment-35727 Bill Karro Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:25:49 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/07/05/more-marketing-wars-lantus-vs-levemir/#comment-35727 Marketing war it is, & for me Levemir is winning this year. Have a new drug plan, and Lantus in vials for pen is twice as much as Levemir in pens. Marketing war it is, & for me Levemir is winning this year. Have a new drug plan, and Lantus in vials for pen is twice as much as Levemir in pens.

]]> By: steve http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/07/more_marketing.html/comment-page-1#comment-35726 steve Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:00:55 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/07/05/more-marketing-wars-lantus-vs-levemir/#comment-35726 Switched from NPH to Levemir a month ago. I was getting HgA1cs below 6 for years on NPH and Humalog in the am, additional humalog during the day as needed. More than half the time no additional humalog was needed so I'd get the whole day on one injection. Only downside was occasional hypo, but never so bad as to require assistance or emergency room. Dr made me switch to Levemir since only uses NPH for gestational diabetes. 1st, it doesn't last anywhere near 24 hours, so the am readings are always high, requiring Humalog before bed. So I've basically traded at least 3, and often 4, injections a day for 1. Traded below 6 HGA1c for above 6. Hardly an improvement, but Dr. won't let me back on NPH. And it costs 4x as much ($400 for 3 mos vs $100). Drug cos get rich, patient gets screwed. Switched from NPH to Levemir a month ago. I was getting HgA1cs below 6 for years on NPH and Humalog in the am, additional humalog during the day as needed. More than half the time no additional humalog was needed so I’d get the whole day on one injection. Only downside was occasional hypo, but never so bad as to require assistance or emergency room. Dr made me switch to Levemir since only uses NPH for gestational diabetes. 1st, it doesn’t last anywhere near 24 hours, so the am readings are always high, requiring Humalog before bed. So I’ve basically traded at least 3, and often 4, injections a day for 1. Traded below 6 HGA1c for above 6. Hardly an improvement, but Dr. won’t let me back on NPH. And it costs 4x as much ($400 for 3 mos vs $100). Drug cos get rich, patient gets screwed.

]]> By: Dennis http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/07/more_marketing.html/comment-page-1#comment-35725 Dennis Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:54:22 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/07/05/more-marketing-wars-lantus-vs-levemir/#comment-35725 I started using Lantus even before it became approved in the USA, got it thru Canada.. I was Desperate to get off NPH, that caused alot of Hypos for me... and just gotten tired of waking up every other nite with Hypo's... Then Came Lantus, which I thought would be the Lifesaver.. NOT... It did cause Less Hypo'sover nite, but still got them , none the less...ave 2x wk....vs 4x wk using NPH... Then came Levimir- Tried it and I got higher AM Sgrs, but no Hypo's and after 3 mos of Experimenting? Got it pretty well dialed in... But, On some nites, I also have to take some Novalog ( not Increase Levemir) but AM's are doing Great and No More hypo's over nite...None, Zip, Nanna.. It doesn't have the Spike as Lantus... As for taking a 2nd shot-12 hrs later? Not needed, why? Becasue I test every 2 hrs and control the days levels with Novalog... And , yes I have begged the VA ( veteran) for a Pump, to no avail.. They say my BSgrs are very good and I don't need one.. A1c's range from 5.8 -6.3% Past Yr... So, if your Having Any Hypo's overnite using Lantus? Try Levemir...but, be prepared to use mor Novalog as well.and test every 2 hrs thru out the day and you shouldn't Need a 2nd 12 hr shot.. Hope this helps someone I started using Lantus even before it became approved in the USA, got it thru Canada.. I was Desperate to get off NPH, that caused alot of Hypos for me… and just gotten tired of waking up every other nite with Hypo’s…

Then Came Lantus, which I thought would be the Lifesaver.. NOT… It did cause Less Hypo’sover nite, but still got them , none the less…ave 2x wk….vs 4x wk using NPH…

Then came Levimir- Tried it and I got higher AM Sgrs, but no Hypo’s and after 3 mos of Experimenting? Got it pretty well dialed in… But, On some nites, I also have to take some Novalog ( not Increase Levemir) but AM’s are doing Great and No More hypo’s over nite…None, Zip, Nanna..

It doesn’t have the Spike as Lantus…

As for taking a 2nd shot-12 hrs later? Not needed, why? Becasue I test every 2 hrs and control the days levels with Novalog…

And , yes I have begged the VA ( veteran) for a Pump, to no avail.. They say my BSgrs are very good and I don’t need one.. A1c’s range from 5.8 -6.3% Past Yr…

So, if your Having Any Hypo’s overnite using Lantus? Try Levemir…but, be prepared to use mor Novalog as well.and test every 2 hrs thru out the day and you shouldn’t Need a 2nd 12 hr shot..

Hope this helps someone

]]> By: Amit Lal http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/07/more_marketing.html/comment-page-1#comment-35724 Amit Lal Sun, 07 Oct 2007 06:21:22 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/07/05/more-marketing-wars-lantus-vs-levemir/#comment-35724 LANTUS is best long acting basal insulin for type 2 patient.Lantus acts for 24 hour with less hypo episodes.Novo's Levemir action last for only 12-16 hours,same has been shown in a new study betweeen these two basal insulin in Type 1 patient.Go for LANTUS for better glucose control throughout a day. LANTUS is best long acting basal insulin for type 2 patient.Lantus acts for 24 hour with less hypo episodes.Novo’s Levemir action last for only 12-16 hours,same has been shown in a new study betweeen these two basal insulin in Type 1 patient.Go for LANTUS for better glucose control throughout a day.

]]> By: PETER ANDRUKIEWICZ http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/07/more_marketing.html/comment-page-1#comment-35723 PETER ANDRUKIEWICZ Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:23:42 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/07/05/more-marketing-wars-lantus-vs-levemir/#comment-35723 AT ONE POINT OF MY LIFE I WAS TAKING 20 UNITS OF ULTRALENTE IN THE AM AND 10 UNITS OF LENTE AT BEDTIME. MY AM BS WERE THE BEST I HAD EVER HAD. MY ENDO HAD A NEW PAC WORKING FOR HIM AND SHE DID NOT LIKE ME TAKING THE LENTE BEFORE BED SO SHE CHANGED IT WITH HIS APPROVAL. MY MORNINGS WENT HAYWIRE AND SO DID MY A1C. WHEN I ASKED MY ENDO HE SAID THAT THIS WAS THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE AND THAT THEY WERE PRACTICING ON ME. SINCE THAT TIME I HAVE FELT TERRIBLY CHANGED ENDOS AND AM NOW ON LANTUS WHICH I CAN'T STAND CUZ IT DOESN'T LAST ME 24 HOURS AND IN THE AM HOURS I AWAKE WITH LOW BLOOD SUGARS. SOMETIMES AS MUCH AS THESES PRACTIONERS OF MEDICINE WANT TO THINK THEY ARE HELPING THEY NEED TO REALIZE THAT THE PATIENT IS ULTIMATELY THE ONE WHO CAN HELP THE MOST. DOC'S LISTEN TO YOUR PATIENTS AND SEE WHAT FITS INTO THEIR LIFESTYLE AND NOT VICE VERSA. AT ONE POINT OF MY LIFE I WAS TAKING 20 UNITS OF ULTRALENTE IN THE AM AND 10 UNITS OF LENTE AT BEDTIME. MY AM BS WERE THE BEST I HAD EVER HAD. MY ENDO HAD A NEW PAC WORKING FOR HIM AND SHE DID NOT LIKE ME TAKING THE LENTE BEFORE BED SO SHE CHANGED IT WITH HIS APPROVAL. MY MORNINGS WENT HAYWIRE AND SO DID MY A1C. WHEN I ASKED MY ENDO HE SAID THAT THIS WAS THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE AND THAT THEY WERE PRACTICING ON ME. SINCE THAT TIME I HAVE FELT TERRIBLY CHANGED ENDOS AND AM NOW ON LANTUS WHICH I CAN’T STAND CUZ IT DOESN’T LAST ME 24 HOURS AND IN THE AM HOURS I AWAKE WITH LOW BLOOD SUGARS. SOMETIMES AS MUCH AS THESES PRACTIONERS OF MEDICINE WANT TO THINK THEY ARE HELPING THEY NEED TO REALIZE THAT THE PATIENT IS ULTIMATELY THE ONE WHO CAN HELP THE MOST. DOC’S LISTEN TO YOUR PATIENTS AND SEE WHAT FITS INTO THEIR LIFESTYLE AND NOT VICE VERSA.

]]> By: PARTONIA http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/07/more_marketing.html/comment-page-1#comment-35722 PARTONIA Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:00:19 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/07/05/more-marketing-wars-lantus-vs-levemir/#comment-35722 LANTUS INSULIN IS A BASAL INSULIN IT MAY WORK VERY WELL IN SOME DIABETESAND MAY WORK NOT IN SOME. IT DEPENDS ON YOU AND YUR CONDITION.BUT WITH LANTUS AND NOVOLOG WE ARE CLOSING TO A NORMAL LIFE KLIKE NON DIABETES AND THAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF NEW INSULINS. LANTUS INSULIN IS A BASAL INSULIN IT MAY WORK VERY WELL IN SOME DIABETESAND MAY WORK NOT IN SOME. IT DEPENDS ON YOU AND YUR CONDITION.BUT WITH LANTUS AND NOVOLOG WE ARE CLOSING TO A NORMAL LIFE KLIKE NON DIABETES AND THAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF NEW INSULINS.

]]> By: test http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/07/more_marketing.html/comment-page-1#comment-35721 test Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:32:20 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/07/05/more-marketing-wars-lantus-vs-levemir/#comment-35721 test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test test

]]> By: sugardoc http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/07/more_marketing.html/comment-page-1#comment-35720 sugardoc Mon, 10 Jul 2006 00:08:16 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/07/05/more-marketing-wars-lantus-vs-levemir/#comment-35720 Both insulins are great additions to our goal of controlling BS in all types of patients and there is no need to argue about the MEDICAL adavantages and disadavantages of each. For 16 years I have been an endocrinologist and I have never been so excited and optimistic about the options (injectable and oral) available to me and my patients. Talk to your doc about the pros and cons of each for you. Both insulins are great additions to our goal of controlling BS in all types of patients and there is no need to argue about the MEDICAL adavantages and disadavantages of each. For 16 years I have been an endocrinologist and I have never been so excited and optimistic about the options (injectable and oral) available to me and my patients. Talk to your doc about the pros and cons of each for you.

]]> By: AmyT http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/07/more_marketing.html/comment-page-1#comment-35719 AmyT Thu, 06 Jul 2006 02:05:20 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/07/05/more-marketing-wars-lantus-vs-levemir/#comment-35719 Jo, I don't necessarily adhere to the Conspiracy Theory that the Evil Forces are supressing a cure. But meanwhile, it's interesting to be part of such a "profitable" disease. Can healthy competition have some benefits for patients too? Jo, I don’t necessarily adhere to the Conspiracy Theory that the Evil Forces are supressing a cure. But meanwhile, it’s interesting to be part of such a “profitable” disease. Can healthy competition have some benefits for patients too?

]]> By: jo http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/07/more_marketing.html/comment-page-1#comment-35718 jo Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:47:31 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/07/05/more-marketing-wars-lantus-vs-levemir/#comment-35718 It all boils down to who can get the most money and not who can help the best. Which is sad, because due to the fact that this disease can bring in lots of money for them, they won't spend the money to try and find a cure. Why shut off the milk cow? It all boils down to who can get the most money and not who can help the best. Which is sad, because due to the fact that this disease can bring in lots of money for them, they won’t spend the money to try and find a cure. Why shut off the milk cow?

]]>