Comments on: Exubera “Bong” OK for Older Folks? http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/06/exubera_bong_ok.html A gold mine of straight talk and encouragement for people living with diabetes Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:45:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: david http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/06/exubera_bong_ok.html/comment-page-1#comment-35622 david Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:35:11 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/06/16/exubera-bong-ok-for-older-folks/#comment-35622 Yes it is large but hell it sure beats injections by miles. It is so easy. Yes it is large but hell it sure beats injections by miles. It is so easy.

]]> By: Avi Brand http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/06/exubera_bong_ok.html/comment-page-1#comment-35621 Avi Brand Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:24:38 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/06/16/exubera-bong-ok-for-older-folks/#comment-35621 Who made this insulin dispenser? Grafix? Who made this insulin dispenser? Grafix?

]]> By: Sunil S Chiplunkar http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/06/exubera_bong_ok.html/comment-page-1#comment-35620 Sunil S Chiplunkar Sun, 04 Mar 2007 08:03:17 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/06/16/exubera-bong-ok-for-older-folks/#comment-35620 The times are achanging There was a time in the pharma industry (1960s - 1970s) where one had to meet a nucleus of doctors give them a great looking MR, good presenter - charmer visiting them regularly, give some freebies, gifts, seminars, luncheons; good ego massage and the prescriptions would start rolling. Patients too would not be too assertive or questioning with the doctors. Well times are achanging. Now its the internet era - the web 2.0 revolution is on. Business is at the speed of thought. Business plans get disrupted a lot faster. There is a remarkably high level of patient empowerment and societal consciousness on various issues. There are more assertive and informed stakeholders in the healthcare delivery process. Hence, diffusion of pharma innovations are a lot tougher. Perhaps if the Vioxx launch had happened in the 1960s it would not have had such an exit. They would have repositioned Vioxx as a short term use NSAID. Exubera Pfizer with high hopes, launched it like a bong Thought - it would be click like a gong But missing is the exuberance All it got is malevolence So will Exubera bomb? www.pharmaceuticalshealthcare.blogspot.com The times are achanging

There was a time in the pharma industry (1960s – 1970s) where one had to meet a nucleus of doctors give them a great looking MR, good presenter – charmer visiting them regularly, give some freebies, gifts, seminars, luncheons; good ego massage and the prescriptions would start rolling. Patients too would not be too assertive or questioning with the doctors.

Well times are achanging. Now its the internet era – the web 2.0 revolution is on. Business is at the speed of thought. Business plans get disrupted a lot faster. There is a remarkably high level of patient empowerment and societal consciousness on various issues. There are more assertive and informed stakeholders in the healthcare delivery process. Hence, diffusion of pharma innovations are a lot tougher. Perhaps if the Vioxx launch had happened in the 1960s it would not have had such an exit. They would have repositioned Vioxx as a short term use NSAID.

Exubera

Pfizer with high hopes, launched it like a bong
Thought – it would be click like a gong
But missing is the exuberance
All it got is malevolence
So will Exubera bomb?
http://www.pharmaceuticalshealthcare.blogspot.com

]]> By: jt http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/06/exubera_bong_ok.html/comment-page-1#comment-35619 jt Sun, 17 Dec 2006 17:08:40 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/06/16/exubera-bong-ok-for-older-folks/#comment-35619 Beware of sales reps from other insulin companies "bashing" the device. They are also offering Dr. s biased "CME" programs and high "honorariums" to do talks where they casually dismiss the device. In the trials 8 out of 10 patients liked it better than injections. Beware of sales reps from other insulin companies “bashing” the device. They are also offering Dr. s biased “CME” programs and high “honorariums” to do talks where they casually dismiss the device. In the trials 8 out of 10 patients liked it better than injections.

]]> By: bobbie be http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/06/exubera_bong_ok.html/comment-page-1#comment-35618 bobbie be Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:07:33 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/06/16/exubera-bong-ok-for-older-folks/#comment-35618 I'm a new user of Exubera and I can tell you it's easy to use and my test readings shows it works just fine. My endo wouldn't write a prescription, but couldn't come up with any real reason why other than 'it's too new.' So, I found an endo who would write a prescription. My cousin went through this same runaround when pumps first came out. He had to shop docs to get one! Same as ever! I’m a new user of Exubera and I can tell you it’s easy to use and my test readings shows it works just fine. My endo wouldn’t write a prescription, but couldn’t come up with any real reason why other than ‘it’s too new.’ So, I found an endo who would write a prescription. My cousin went through this same runaround when pumps first came out. He had to shop docs to get one! Same as ever!

]]> By: Princessjenny1977 http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/06/exubera_bong_ok.html/comment-page-1#comment-35617 Princessjenny1977 Sat, 30 Sep 2006 04:48:59 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/06/16/exubera-bong-ok-for-older-folks/#comment-35617 Actually, I am now on Exubera, the bong concept is funny, never really thought of it that way, but WOW...this stuff is SO easy and it is really working! Actually, I am now on Exubera, the bong concept is funny, never really thought of it that way, but WOW…this stuff is SO easy and it is really working!

]]> By: shellstar_rocks http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/06/exubera_bong_ok.html/comment-page-1#comment-35616 shellstar_rocks Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:41:25 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/06/16/exubera-bong-ok-for-older-folks/#comment-35616 like most of us PWD, i too, was excited to read the press about the recent FDA approval of Exubera... could this be a simple, socially acceptable solution to pulling out my Humalog pen at the dinner table? unfortunately, my endo at UCSF was less than enthused when i quizzed her about it last visit. "Not enough clinical data/clinical trials too short/potential to damage lungs/etc"... i was a bit miffed by her reaction and put it down to being resistant to changes in treatment. however, her real resistance was actually a fear of my resistance... without lengthy clinical trials, the possibility of us patients developing insulin resistence is unknown. and she's not willing to take that risk. and neither am i. like most of us PWD, i too, was excited to read the press about the recent FDA approval of Exubera… could this be a simple, socially acceptable solution to pulling out my Humalog pen at the dinner table?

unfortunately, my endo at UCSF was less than enthused when i quizzed her about it last visit. “Not enough clinical data/clinical trials too short/potential to damage lungs/etc”… i was a bit miffed by her reaction and put it down to being resistant to changes in treatment.

however, her real resistance was actually a fear of my resistance… without lengthy clinical trials, the possibility of us patients developing insulin resistence is unknown. and she’s not willing to take that risk.

and neither am i.

]]> By: Lukas http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/06/exubera_bong_ok.html/comment-page-1#comment-35615 Lukas Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:38:18 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/06/16/exubera-bong-ok-for-older-folks/#comment-35615 has anybody actually tried exubera? heard you have to inhale for 15 minutes. seems like fun sitting at the dinner table bonging your dose of insulin while dinner gets cold. can you report any experience? thanx lukas has anybody actually tried exubera? heard you have to inhale for 15 minutes. seems like fun sitting at the dinner table bonging your dose of insulin while dinner gets cold.

can you report any experience?

thanx lukas

]]> By: JasonJayhawk http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/06/exubera_bong_ok.html/comment-page-1#comment-35614 JasonJayhawk Sat, 15 Jul 2006 09:01:25 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/06/16/exubera-bong-ok-for-older-folks/#comment-35614 Just heard from a tiny bird (okay, my sister, a pharmacist) that the drug reps are touting this device as costing $10.00 -- it won't be free from doctors -- "because patients would be more likely to lose it if they got it for free." The drug rep that spoke to my sister was programmed to answer "I don't know" for every question about the product that was not answered in the sales presentation, and showed no intention of finding and reporting back the answers. That kind of elusive behavior makes us wonder what Pfizer has up its sleeve. No hospital endocrinologists were present at the presentation. (?!) Just heard from a tiny bird (okay, my sister, a pharmacist) that the drug reps are touting this device as costing $10.00 — it won’t be free from doctors — “because patients would be more likely to lose it if they got it for free.”

The drug rep that spoke to my sister was programmed to answer “I don’t know” for every question about the product that was not answered in the sales presentation, and showed no intention of finding and reporting back the answers. That kind of elusive behavior makes us wonder what Pfizer has up its sleeve.

No hospital endocrinologists were present at the presentation. (?!)

]]> By: Brad http://www.diabetesmine.com/2006/06/exubera_bong_ok.html/comment-page-1#comment-35613 Brad Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:57:57 +0000 http://diabetesmine.dreamhosters.com/2006/06/16/exubera-bong-ok-for-older-folks/#comment-35613 Insulin Bong! Ha! Too funny. Yeah, I am really skeptical of what I have read about this. I only see it as potentially useful for type II, and that's if you have good lungs, and it doesn't turn out to ruin them itself. I've had Type I for... um... lemeesee... 17 years, (19 at the time), and I've been on the pump since 2001. The pump has been such a boon to my control, that I would never consider messing with exubera, since it at best would be comprable to going back on individual injections. It took several doctors, diabetes educators, and my wife many years to get me over my "I don't want something attached to me all the time" attitude, and on the pump. I have never regretted it for a minute. (well maybe when my pump got stolen along with my wallet while from a friends truck while we were surfing). Hey, is it 4:20 yet? I need a snack, pass my bon... umm insulin, yeah, that's it. Insulin Bong! Ha! Too funny. Yeah, I am really skeptical of what I have read about this. I only see it as potentially useful for type II, and that’s if you have good lungs, and it doesn’t turn out to ruin them itself. I’ve had Type I for… um… lemeesee… 17 years, (19 at the time), and I’ve been on the pump since 2001. The pump has been such a boon to my control, that I would never consider messing with exubera, since it at best would be comprable to going back on individual injections.

It took several doctors, diabetes educators, and my wife many years to get me over my “I don’t want something attached to me all the time” attitude, and on the pump. I have never regretted it for a minute. (well maybe when my pump got stolen along with my wallet while from a friends truck while we were surfing).

Hey, is it 4:20 yet? I need a snack, pass my bon… umm insulin, yeah, that’s it.

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